Fizz 5: We Hack Up Marrone’s Presser, Bailing on the Run, & MIA Marinovich
D.A. | Nov 14, 2011 | Comments 5
Just when you thought it couldn’t get worse than Louisville, there was the UConn game. When you figured the Huskies loss was the nadir, the Orange presents South Florida. What a dump of a game. Friday’s homecoming game may have been the worst football game in the Big East this season. Penalties, drops, mental mistakes, bad execution and a pace similar to a Red Sox/Yankees game with a John Lackey vs. A.J. Burnett pitching matchup. It. Was. Brutal. So after suffering by reliving the horrificness, here’s this week’s Fizz 5:
- Everything is Doug Marrone’s fault. #Sarcasm
In The Dougie’s bizarro world post-game press conference, he took the entire loss on himself. Basic football mistakes were his fault. All the missed blocks were his fault. The dropped passes (including three in the endzone), on him. He’s wrong.
Players play and coaches coach. Yes, Marrone can drill them harder and in higher pressure situations, but his guys still have to execute. His line has to give the quarterback time. Ryan Nassib has to complete better than 50% of his throws, and his receivers need to squeeze the magic bean. Marrone can take the blame all he wants, but he should put more responsibility on the players. Maybe the team needs to feel more responsibility, making it more likely to improve. There’s no telling what was said privately, but for the second week in a row,The Fizz is disappointed with HCDM’s postgame comments.
- SU has at least one good offensive player and he wears #15.
Alec Lemon went over 150 yards receiving for the second straight week. He did drop a touchdown on a difficult play, and kicked a catchable 4th down late in the game. But overall it was a tremendous day for the junior. He’s a good route runner. who has developed great chemistry with Nassib. He runs the plays Nassib likes, and can actually create enough separation for trigger-shy “Sir-dinks-a-lot” to put it in the air. He’s going to drop a few, but he’s as solid as SU has.
As for the other receivers, Jarrod West seems to have lost his confidence thanks to a few drops. Dorian Graham had a return case of a football allergy in his hands. Van Chew got hurt and Nick Provo was MIA. Getting the ball to #80 needs to be a priority and Provo was a non-factor vs the Bulls.
- Establishing the run is great. Continuing to run is better.
What’s the point in establishing the run if you abandon it? That’s exactly what Syracuse did in the first half. SU began by running on its first 7 plays. That set up play action, but in a shocking development Nassib missed on an inaccurate deep ball (seriously, has he completed one deep since the Pinstripe Bowl?).
In the first quarter, SU’s run to pass was 12-to-4. In the second quarter, it flipped to an incredible 2-to-19. The Orange ran the ball a whopping two times. Nassib doesn’t like to throw the ball in tight windows. The defense starts dropping more guys in coverage when SU stops running. Establishing the run does nothing if you don’t stick to it. SU wasn’t trailing bug enough in the 2nd quarter to abandon the ground. The Orange trailed 3-0 at the start of the 2nd quarter. It went into half down 20-10.
- Nathaniel Hackett – I appreciate your candor, but I disagree with your answers.
There are a few things everyone should know about Hackett. 1) He and Tim Hasselback are identical twins. 2) He’s one of the nicest guys you will ever meet and gives some of the straightest answers of any coach out there. 3) He is a very sharp offensive mind.
The problem is that it hasn’t translated into good play calling. The Fizz had a chance to talk to Hackett extensively after the game and ask him the same questions readers have been asking us. Where are the screens? Why so many personnel changes? Why can’t Nassib get in a rhythm?
Hackett said the screens are still in the playbook but haven’t “popped” like they’ve wanted to this year. Plus, against USF they would have been hard to execute because the Bulls run so many complex schemes on the defensive line (stunts and twists) they are difficult to block for. But you still have run a few of them to get Antwon Bailey in space with blockers. D-Lineman won’t fly up field to Nassib if they think a screen might be thrown behind them. It’s football 101.
Hackett also told The Fizz the constant switching of personnel is an attempt to maximize each players abilities and put them in situations where they can succeed. Dropped balls are not Hackett’s fault. The argument against this philosophy is it breaks up the continuity and rhythm of an offense and specifically the quarterback. Why doesn’t SU run more hurry-up? Hackett’s response: “Everyone see’s the no huddle and ooh’s and ah’s, but that was against a 2-minute prevent defense too. That doesn’t work against a regular defense.” Fair point, but for two years Nassib has been better when the pace picks up. Does that mean SU should turn into Oregon? No, but the lackadaisical pace with which they play certainly isn’t working.
- Mikhail Marinovich is as gone as his mustache.
The world cried when Mikhail shaved one of the best mustaches we had seen since Rollie Fingers. 1) It was an awesome mustache. 2) It was seemingly the first time Orange fans had heard Marinovich’s name all year. Outside of Rutgers when the defense put on a show (in a loss), Marinovich has been a complete non-factor. He hasn’t gotten to the quarterback. He hasn’t even pressured the pocket. This puts even more pressure on Chan Jones who is facing more double teams since he’s the only player in the front 7 opponents have to watch for on every snap.
Silver lining time. SU has two weeks to regroup and is 3-0 off a bye under Marrone (4-0 if you include the Pinstripe Bowl) and Cincinnati was dealt a devastating injury to its quarterback. Recruiting also continues to pick up major momentum. As for the moron who wore a bag over his head Friday night, stop it. Do you want Groobers back? Three years ago this program was the laughing stock of the country. Yes SU is in last place in the nation’s worst BCS conference, but some perspective people. No more bags. Or The Fizz will find you.
Posted: Craig Hoffman


Well….better coaching, better play calling, making plays (catches, tackles, blocks, throws, etc) equals fan’s not wearing paper bags over their heads.
No its not the Groober era anymore, but people who who pay to go to the game have every reason to voice their frustration. Do i agree? no…was it me? absolutley not…It’s painful to watch.
Its amazing how you guys won’t knock this guy enough. Nearly the same things and words spoken that developed around GROB as now with HCDM. HCDM lost this team and you won’t admit it. Its over 5-7 will be our season. Next the recruit will have second thoughts. Goins(RB) is already not interested in SU. Look out when the poop hits the fan you media types will put masking tape over your mouth and fingers!!!
In the last three seasons with Coach P we were 16-20. With Groobs we were 10-35 over 4 seasons (4 too many). With Marrone, right now, we’re 17-18.
We just landed a 4 star recruit and are in the hunt for other big recruits. There’s no denying we’re on the right track.
You can’t expect DM to reproduce the 1987 season in three years. He was way ahead of schedule bringing in 8 wins last season and still on track to rebuild this team even if we go 5-7. Hang in there, buddy.
Thank you Derek for the voice of reason.
Terry – Groobers never won 5 games in a season. 5-5 at any point in any season would’ve been the peak. You sure your name isn’t Greg?
the fizz is crazy i think they want something to complain about they just dont understand how things work.
like the fizz stated at the end of the first quarter su was down 3-0 and came nowhere close to scoring. Then abandoned the run and scored 10 points what a terrible decision by the staff. Scoring zero points is better then scoring 10.
the fizz reminds me of that dad at the hs games that screams after every play. A pass play that is incomplete -’WHY AREN’T YOU RUNNING THE FOOTBALL’, a run that is stuffed at the line ‘WHY AREN’T YOU THROWING THE FOOTBALL’.
It fits perfectly with the fizz’s they should run the football because the game was closer when they ran the ball the first two series. Uh it had nothing to do with running the football it had to do with it was the first quarter and games where one team is dominate are always closer in the first quarter.
it may’ve helped if SU defense had held USF to less then 2 TDs and FG on their four poss in the 2nd quarter but maybe not