Ben Barrett & SU’s Bermuda Triangle: The Amazing Disappearing Oranges?

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Class of 2012 and former CBA OL/DE Ben Barrett has left the Syracuse football team to reportedly pursue other interests. Doug Marrone predictably did not release information on why the 6’5” 255 lb. lineman will not be on the football field this season. This would have been his freshman year. Barrett attended early August workouts, but was not present with the team at the Fort Drum practices.

It hurts SU to lose a big body like Barrett, but the Manlius, NY native is the just next name on a growing list of players that have left the program for, quite frankly, unknown or unusual reasons. It seems like every few months another Orange player drops from the roster, or an SU commit doesn’t quite pan out. The Fizz put together a list of some of most recent and oddest departures under Marrone.

Mark Garrick (Class of 2012) DE – Sacramento City College

The South Carolina native committed to Portland State back in June, after he seemed destined to sign with the Orange on National Signing Day. But an ACL injury suffered in the last game of his Sacramento City College season put those plans on hold. The injury wasn’t thought to be too severe in January when Garrick gave his verbal to Syracuse, but SU’s doctors projected Garrick may not be fully healed from the injury until September. His scholarship was not honored, as the SU medical staff never granted approval. The Orange lost out on one piece of its California JUCO 3-headed monster.

Pancho Barnwell (’12) DT – East HS, Rochester, NY

Barnwell’s grades and SAT scores were not high enough for him to make the football squad. On National Signing Day it was originally thought Pancho would be headed to Milford, but the lineman enrolled at Nassau County Community College. According to reports, the earliest Barnwell could enroll at Syracuse is January of 2014.

Shu Mungwa (’11) S - Bergen Catholic HS, Oradell, NJ

The safety was a top candidate to step in and fill the shoes of the departed Phil Thomas, but Mungwa decided to part ways with SU earlier this month. Shu admitted Syracuse “wasn’t the best place for him.” He was part of the trio of SU players, including Corey Boatman and Riley Dixon, who were also left off the roster a few weeks after Big East Media Day in Newport, RI.

Tyree Smallwood (’11) RB - Cornwall Central HS, Cornwall, NY

And now the curious case of Tyree Smallwood. The New Windsor native originally committed to SU in June of ’10, but ended up at Milford Academy last season. He and Ashton Broyld played well for Bill Chaplick’s Falcon squad, but reports surfaced in January that Smallwood had subsequently decommitted from Syracuse. Tyree had also been arrested a few weeks earlier on shoplifting charges at an Old Navy in the Palisades Shopping Center.

Dom Timbers (’10) RB - Woodland Hills HS, Pittsburgh, PA                            

The Pittsburgh native originally signed with the Orange in ’10, and all seemed well. Timbers was extremely excited to sign with Syracuse, and seemed like a viable option in the run game in the future. Then after not qualifying for ’10 season, he disappeared. There were rumors Timbers had enrolled at San Francisco City College, but he wasn’t named on the team’s roster. The Fizz finally found Timbers hiding in Scranton this past fall, where he played for the Lackawanna College Falcons. Even Dom’s mother, Cassandra Reese, was concerned about his son’s playing career, and the possibility that she would not see her son play for SU. As of now, the Woodland Hills HS product is still listed on the Lackawanna College football roster.

Mario Tull (’10) RB - Xavarian HS, Brooklyn, NY                       

Tull was left off the SU roster before the Spring Game this April. In March, reports surfaced that Tull, along with Johnny Miller and Shane Raupers, were no longer part of the team. Tull came to SU as a LB in ’10 but was converted to RB last year. The Brooklyn native did not play last season after appearing in 10 contests his freshman year.

EJ Carter (’09) LB - Dr. Phillips HS, Orlando, FL         

Carter was kicked off the SU squad for missing an important “exit” meeting with Marrone. During finals week of his freshman year, EJ allegedly missed a team function as well – the same day his mother Beverly Carter claimed he took three exams. He apparently had forgotten about the meetings and functions that day, and instead flew back home to Florida. Carter almost left the team earlier that year, but eventually stayed with SU until his eventual dismissal a few months later.

In a world of 18-to-21-year old athletes, it’s inevitable every program will have some players leave the program when life situations pop up. But for a team like Syracuse trying to build stability and consistency, a roster in flux can hurt the pace of growth. Let’s hope the carousel of players leaving has slowed down for SU.

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  1. tebow says:

    How do u get people disappearing from these cased?

    Poncho, timbers, and smallwood all had grade issues and everyone knew about it

    Everyone knew about garricks injury he didnt even sign an loi.

    Everyone also knew about carters issues

    The bermuda triangle is where u come up with these stories.

  2. Pogue Mahone says:

    No story here. All teams experience some turnover. Some had grade issues or screwed up in some other way or saw the handwriting on the wall vis a vis playing time. Barrett was our first commit last year, a legacy of sorts and suspect. I’ll take my chances with the extra scholarship.

  3. Kevin Fitzgerald says:

    Tebow:
    I don’t think anyone could have taken the Bermuda Triangle reference more seriously than you did. It’s clearly a funny title–don’t know how that one got by you. Obviously none of these kids literally “disappeared.” They all have their stories that are well known throughout the SU community.

    Pogue:
    The story is a look back at some of the most recent SU commits that didn’t pan out. There is no hidden trend, or search for a reason why it’s happening. I agree, teams do experience turnover and things like this happen.

  4. Norma Stitz says:

    @KF wait you mean they haven’t literally disappeared? Some folks are just always bitter KF.

  5. CuseOnly says:

    Poncho will be here next year as will Josh Manley who will also be at Milford.

    I could care less about any of these guys unless they turn up somewhere else and actually do something.

  6. Ron says:

    @Kevin Fitzgerald;no matter how hard you try your just not going to please everyone. We don’t know why Barret changed his mind and I really don’t care to know,it’s none of our business.
    You can’t hold it against an 17-18-19 year old for not knowing what he wants to do in life or hold it against another because he built a business and is more concerned with it being successful than the game of football.
    There is no excuse for the kids who don’t measure up on academics. I think they would have aced the courses at North Carolina. The kid out of Junior College who got hurt,his injury must have been more serious than first thought.

    Syracuse University is not the only school that has this problem. People want to criticize a kid for changing their minds.

    What about all of the adults who change their minds after 5-10-20-30 years of marriage who just throw their hands in the air and say to hell with it and walk away? (My point is that everyone does it,people need to lighten up)

    Syracuse will be fine. And Kevin great article,informative as usual. keep up the good work Fizz.

  7. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Well said Ron,I’ve stayed away from this story cause I was expecting “u no who” from previous thread to jump all over this really non-story!Last thread was lively!!!Right “Teary?”I hate engaging some of these Jokers cause I suspect he’s just a kid!

  8. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Ron,you and I Troll’s?Right….Teary!!Creep!!

  9. Norma Stitz says:

    @Cuseonly Josh Manley is already at Cuse. And if Poncho went to Nassua instead of Milford then he won’t be here for two years. And you are right unless they go somewhere else who cares. Pancho loves Cuse and will be here.

  10. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    @Ron,This guy is something else,on one hand he makes a good point on HCDM and expectations of winning this year or our patience will be worn,but he can’t differentiate between the people whom he’s challenging!Ive always listened politely to his posts!He’s made a few valid points then loses everything he gains with his paranoia!I’ll have to ignore this “kid?”.btw He left ya a message on previous thread!!How depressing!He’s sucking the sunshine outta the site!Even CDL warned us!!I guess he was right!

  11. bgogo says:

    It’s not a good article, because the word following the name should have had the reason: “Injury,” “Grades,” etc. Happens everywhere, every college. You should also call the NCAA as a whole a bermuda triangle. It is.

  12. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Fellas,is it true Notre Dame is joining the Big10?I seen it on another site?Wow..

  13. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    I saw that on a MSU site sportales I don’t know how true it is ?I won’t believe it till its verified!!

  14. Ron says:

    @Russell Mac Eachern;if that’s true,can we get out of the deal that we have with them? I was hoping that they wouldn’t come to the ACC and ruin the league like they did to the BIG EAST.

    Russell, I answered Terry on the last thread.

  15. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    @Ron,I asked about ND cause ya can’t believe all these websites with differing agenda’s!!Id rather see them try and keep their independant status and continue too flounder!tho I think sooner or later their gonna have to join a conference!”You know who” is leaving me with a frown which tells me maybe he should move on or print his name and tell us all where to find him for an old fashioned nose to nose”debate”lol!!Why does he abuse himself by coming were he’s unhappy and unwanted?Maybe he should put his negativity to better use in the Marine Corps like some of us older folks did in our youth?..or maybe just go to a site that suits him?Either way no one will miss his input!!

  16. Carlton says:

    @Russ- ND being independant has nothin to do /w y they arent doin well compared to what their standerds are. Lets face it everyone of u would give ur left nut to have a 8win season. Bein independant means they keep every dime of ticket sales,tv deal an bowl $$ they make. They right now are better off on their own. If I recall right every conf. Commish + ND was at the table for the new playoff system. Bottemline is ND is still a huge player in cfb even though they havent been good since 93. Why? Bc their fan base is the best.

  17. bigdip says:

    Russ u understand the dynamics! ND destroyed the BE, and any conference that EVENTUALLY gets them,will have to CONFORM to the beast. They would make big10 fb brutal(nd v osu/nd v neb)..& acc fb fun(nd v fsu/nd v mia). These sights get traffic and hits when they use big names like ND.Wouldnt doubt propaganda pitching going on, get a buzz going for big10 recruit ND.

    * “YKW” russ at it again with the classic catchphrases! Lofl I’m watchin ESPNU …Luginbill saw SUs schedule n said “WOAH!” ….lol…they projected hard schedule equates to no bowl? I disagree!

  18. bigdip says:

    We’ve actually stopped article bashing! If the article is wack/cheesey/old/off base, guys like Russ & Ron,have kinda advocated for positive spins or positive dialogue from other FIZZ FAM guys. Engaging in open convo is a good fanatics way to stay positive for the ORANGE.

    Stay positive & ask the forum q’s…this is a cool platform for fans,,lets not chase fans away. I love every ‘Cuse fan who reads this…lol

  19. bigdip says:

    That said: @carlton ” sacrifice ya own nards buddy!” If you’re blogging on the site, you’re “all-in” like anybody else. Please Stop being passive AGRESSIVE to the FF…thats the wack juice! Im trying to reform my ways but lets face it NOTRE DAME has the wealthiest fanbase….@carlton you’re a pure dumb*ss!

    Dont cyber stalk 60+ yr old men..let’em have their fun!

  20. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    @Carlton,I thought that comment might stand out to ya when I posted,believe me Carl I understand ND dynamic’s,my mom’s Irish and their fight song has been playing in my ears since I was in the womb and as a kid ND spirit was instilled in me!!As I got older tho I started following “Cuse” and now that their down I love them more!We all know ND will really always be alright cause their ND!We in CNY need something to smile about (Dip/Ron)and myself so coming from here I hope you’ll understand!?!?thank’s Carlton..

  21. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Dipper,all I really care about is you,a few of our GOOD fans,like Ron,Norma,bgogo too name a few and “Cuse”,Im getting tired of some of this negativity and happy to see u up late and posting.I missed ya today kid!

  22. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Keep spreading the love Dip,ur good at it!!I really appreciate ya!

  23. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Yeah Dip,Im really tiring of the arrogance that spins off everything they touch!!Earlier they were middle-class america’s team (in the 60s/70s)but they’ve grown tired since the 90s and now I watch them to root against them….still whatever we think their still ND to their aging base and some others,listen to us?were wasting “Cuse” time even now!!

  24. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    @Norma,saw ur comment/reply late in previous thread,thanx for ur support.I was wondering what ya thought of this nonsense! @Dipper,I warned ya about going into the ice cream store..every time ya do something breaks out lol..thanx for ur support!

  25. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Hey Dipp,60,yea but please don’t add the + sign too early, time move’s quick enough lol..thanks nephew!!btw don’t be too tough on Carlton,he’s honest and obviously cares about “Cuse”.

  26. CuseOnly says:

    Sorry Norma, I was thinking of Myles Hilliard that was at Milford and coming to SU next semester or next year not Josh Manley.

    Poncho went to Milford as well following in the footsteps of Ashton per the Fizz article below.

    http://orangefizz.net/2012/02/meet-syracuses-class-of-12-de-pancho-barnwell-headed-to-milford/

  27. Ron says:

    @Terry; I want you to go back and read what the young,middle aged and older fans of Syracuse Football have posted. We always don’t agree but one thing is for certain,WE LOVE AND SUPPORT THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM. We all try to stay civil to each other and if we disagree with one’s point we try to answer in a constructive way. No one gets upset to the point that they start using vulgar language to make their point.
    I enjoy this site because we have fans from Florida to Texas posting here. We’ve asked that if you do post to please keep it clean. Is that to much to ask anyone?
    Our group is diverse,it closes the generation gap and rewards us with great conversation that I enjoy. We don’t like the negativity,you can post in a more constructive manner to get your point through to us.
    If any of this appeals to you then your welcomed to join us. Oh,I forgot,this is just a bunch of babble from a 60+ member that makes no sense at all to anyone.

  28. Kevin Fitzgerald says:

    CuseOnly:
    A report came out a couple months ago saying Pancho is heading to Nassau Community College on Long Island. The earliest he can make it back to SU is Jan of 2014. He originally thought Milford would be the plan after LOI day in Feb.

  29. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    @Ron,G’morning,I second your post in regard’s to the disagreeable,its their right as long as its civil,honest and done w/respect to our young,middle and more seniors fans/friends!!You handled that with class and respectfully!!That’s all anyone could ask,well done friend!!

  30. Norma Stitz says:

    @CuseOnly yeah I have forgotten about Myles at times too. We shouldn’t because if the kid can get his grades inline (i believe he will) he could be a beast!

  31. Carlton says:

    @BigDip lol aight tough guy. So if i’m stalking russ and ron by that the same stupid logic arent u stalking me? I mean i didnt know answering some1 comment on a open forum was considered “stalking”. I’m a “dumbass” and “you know more” but yet u didnt know what class wayne sheldon was in for example. riiiiiigggghhhhttttt. Dip if you would like to converse /w me then come correct. If you cant then dont waste ur time typeing @me.

  32. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    @Carlton,Dipper’s a young guy Carlton and he feels protective of Ron and I!!I wish u guys would let it ride and drop it as a favor too me!I really like the kid,he brings a lot of sunshine into my life!Lets remember we were all 16 at one time!Thanks in advance Carlton…..I also picked it up and mentioned it to him!!Id like peace here guys!

  33. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Dipper,geez Dip u came on roughly to Carl and he was only participating in the site,c’mon now nephew and straighten it out for ur old uncle ok?I don’t think he deservered the cyber trashing.Thanks Dip.We all have feelings.

  34. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Dip,had our fantasy FB draft tonight,got Cameron Newton,Calvin Johnson,Wes Welker,Antonio Gates,Jordy Nelson to name a few,Rivers as backup QB!Waddya think?

  35. Russell Mac Eachern says:

    Ryan Mathews,Maurice J-Drew,Marshawn Lynch and Ravens Def!!Oh yea,Ahmad Bradshaw too!

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