Syracuse Football: ACC Could Play ACC Teams in Non-Conference “Power 5″ Requirement

What will more ACC exposure mean for the Orange?

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Earlier in the week, it was reported the ACC would remain at an eight-game conference schedule for football, with a requirement to play at least one other “Power Five” conference team in non-conference play. This requirement shouldn’t be an issue for the Orange as it has already done this in the past, playing teams like Northwestern and Penn State in non-conference games last year. However, this is a good move for the conference as it requires teams to play better teams and it ups the profile of the conference as a whole. 

But this does bring up another interesting scenario for ACC teams that was brought up this week. Reports say that ACC teams could begin playing other ACC teams in non-conference play. This goes back to something Dr. Gross started last December when he proposed changing the divisions in the conference. Once again, Dr. Gross seems to be at the front of this charge, saying, “Everything’s on the table.”

This fits with what Gross said in December. Gross wants to get the Orange into games in bigger markets. This could allow SU in places like Miami, Boston and Atlanta more often, bringing the Orange more exposure on TV and to areas of the country it wants to recruit from more often. For example, it can be very difficult to recruit from Florida without being able to tell kids they will play games close to home.

So what does this mean for the Orange? Well, maybe they can start playing Miami on a more regular basis again after playing them for nearly a decade in the Big East. Same with Virginia Tech. Another big factor could be scheduling games with Georgia Tech. Yes, Georgia Tech smoked SU last season, but it would be important for the Orange to keep its presence in the Atlanta area for recruiting as well as satisfying a large alumni base in the area. 

Bottom line, the ACC has a chance to be innovative with its scheduling. It could sound silly to have a team like Miami, Pitt or Georgia Tech on the schedule as a non-conference game one year and a conference game the year before, but it would be a welcomed step for the Orange. As Gross said in December, SU would love to get into the bigger markets more often, and there is really no reason that any two teams should go 10 or 15 years without playing each other. 

This is not saying that team needs to schedule a conference team in non-conference play, but when the league is mandating that teams play a power-conference team every year, this is one way to get it done. Not every other conference has the same scheduling rules, and not all other power-conference schools will want to play ACC teams. This is just one solution to that. But it also solves Gross’ previous concern of missing out on some of the bigger markets for long periods of time. Because of these concerns, look for the Orange to play some ACC teams in non-conference play in the near future.

Posted by: Seth Goldberg

20 Comments on this Post

  1. If I understand this correctly,Syracuse could play 11 of it’s 12 games against schools in the ACC every year with 1 game against a team from a Power 5 Conference.

    They didn’t have any problems scheduling home and away games with LSU.

    I think the format would be awesome for the fans. Would the ACC keep it’s Conference Championship game as well?

  2. Terry

    Its only awesome if SU can compete effectively. SU still needs to show itself to other hot spots since SU and its home ground are not the best for talent. Playing Rutgirls and PSABUSEDU is a must occasionally!! PITT can cover the Pennsy area, but from what we hear SU is hitting NJ harder now. I rather play against PSABUSERU and Rutgirls than off year(of scheduling) of Clemson or FSU any day!! You can’t build a program getting thumped(GT last year) regularly. Build SU’s program up then take on the “big boys” of college football!! It will take time!!


  3. The ACC championship would stay the same. Non-conference games against ACC teams would have no effect on the standings and would act like any other non-conference game

  4. So Seth,are you telling us that if Syracuse wanted to they could play 3 other teams from the other ACC COASTAL division and count them as non conference games? What over-all effect will Notre Dame have on this if teams decided to go ahead with this plan? Will Notre Dame be considered/granted a school from a “Power 5 conference”as being an independant institution?

  5. From things I have seen, Notre Dame would count as a power conference team if scheduled as a non-conference game. Other independents might not. BYU for example is an independent now, but they will not count as a power conference team for ACC scheduling. All that means is hat if an ACC team puts BYU on their schedule they need to add another game against a team from the big 10, big 12, sec, or PAC-12

  6. As for the other part of your question, yes the Orange could play Miami or Pitt as a non-conference game. In that case SU would still have a 0-0 conference record if that game were to take place say week 1 before conference play technically begins.

  7. To all of you who were concerned about the OL. Syracuse got two 6’5″ 300 lb linemen out of South Florida and one OL 6’6′ 298 lb out of Illinois to commit to the Orange on Friday. They bring the total to 7 commits to the class of 2015

    Imagine that.

  8. BK SU FB Fan

    Ron thanks I just peeped that as well. War in the trenches is one that must be won. Lets hope those guys come in and help.

    I’m usually not one to hate change but I’m not so certain that I want some of the drastic moves that have taken place in college sports. But ofcourse, you adapt and move forward. I’d rather teams just try to schedule actual non conference games against comparable or superior talent. To me it just sounds silly to call conference games non conference games one year and differently the next. The games would be worth watching no doubt but just play competitive non conference games against schools you don’t normally play.

  9. BK SU FB Fan ;

    A couple of years ago when the college realignment movement began,conferences got greedy and old time rivalries and traditions that it took years to build were thrown out the window. I know the pressures put on the recruits to join a certain school are tremendous and some times cruel.

    If we are going to play a member from a “Power 5 Conference” three schools that jump out above the rest for me are West Virginia,Rutgers and Maryland. We have Maryland in the near future for an home and home series but would much prefer a long time commitment with them. I use to hate playing Rutgers and West Virginia every year,but now miss the games with them a lot.

    I don’t know when conference realignment will end and hope in the process,the changes it will bring ruin’s/destroys the game that people like you and I love so much.

  10. I meant to say this;

    I don’t know when conference realignment will end and hope in the process,the changes it will bring doesn’t ruin/destroy the game that people like you and I love so much.


  11. BK SU FB Fan

    Ron You speak truth!!!!. I still lament the death of the Big East as we knew it. Yes the Northeast region is moreso pro sports oriented, but with the right collection of teams I thought the Big East could have survived as a Northeast centric football conference(the bball always takes care of itself). At its core, college sports feels like it should cater to the natural geographic rivalries. I think its easier to build a fervor for that. Aside from money, a school like BC sticks out like a sore thumb in the ACC and I was sad to see when they left. Atleast Miami and VT made more regional sense when they left(though I missed them).

    I thought the Big East should have sought to expand to 12 teams prior to the deathblow and then a rotating site for its championship game.

    Welp the Big East football conference will live on for me…as I am a videogamer.

    I created a 12 team 2 division big east in NCAA fb 2012 with a strong emphasis on the Northeast with some expansion into the mid atlantic(I added the FCS Delaware and the service academy Navy during my conference building)

  12. Terry

    The best thing that SU ever did was get the HELL out of the BIG LEAST!! The only issue is that the administration stays behind the SUFB program!! The lack of concern to start the new FB facilities shows lack of concern from the administration. Black eye to the program-for sure!!!

    RON-SU and the ACC is about growing pains!! 8 win seasons will start that growth not 6-6 seasons!! I still feel start slowly(play acceptable programs) and have a fighting chance at a win instead of the LSU type games!! yes SU might sacrifice some, but it also will show up better in the long run.

    RON-Also those Florida “OL” players are not signed yet. Plus their ranking concerns me a bit. They look great on tape so why not ranked at 3 stars off the bat. There are a lot of 3 stars OL players rated out these before these 2 verbaled!! Or at least OTHERS good programs after them-also. Might be a hidden agenda here!! Is this a knee jerk reaction!!
    Just wondering!!

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