Syracuse Commits Are Talking Baylor-Type Resurgence. Can it Happen?

It can’t be a bad thing that the new Orange class wants to do big things.

Can Syracuse have a Baylor-type resurrection? That’s what two of the newest Orange commits, Augustus Edwards and Zach Allen, believe. Edwards told The Fizz of a conversation he had with the Texas quarterback as Gus was deciding.

“He really thinks we can accomplish a lot here. We can have a season like Baylor, the season they had to get our name out there.”

Allen hails from Temple, a mere 45-minute ride up I-35 to Baylor’s Waco campus, so the Bears splash happened in his backyard. On the shoulders of Hesiman winner Robert Griffin III BU surged from 4-8 (just 1-7 in the Big 12) in ’09, to 7-5 in ’10, and then the breakout 10-3 campaign last year. Baylor capped it off with a wild 67-56 victory over Washingon in the Alamo Bowl, one of the most memorable bowl games ever.

Can Syracuse possibly follow that dramatic arc and dream of 10-win seasons? Not so fast. Baylor was recruiting in the hotbed state of Texas, and landed one of the most special talents in recent college football history to push it forward. Syracuse is still doing business in the northeast, and RG3’s aren’t exactly growing on Orange trees.

But the idea that a recruiting class or two which come in together, feel a common purpose, and push the program to the next level can absolutely happen on the Hill. The first step in any great accomplishment is envisioning it, and it sounds like Allen is the perfect leader to begin hammering that image into his teammates’ minds.

Allen looks like a total steal for SU. He’s been garnering national attention since committing, and was invited to partake in the prestigious Elite 11 camp. He’s already helping recruit his future teammates, and has an incredible start on becoming the face of the program down the road. He doesn’t have to be as electric as Griffin to be just as vital to a program’s maturation.

This is one of the most highly-regarded classes SU has had in years. The magnetism of NYC stars to come north and play at Syracuse is building. There is an important bond forming between the last two recruiting years for Doug Marrone. Wayne Morgan and Alvin Cornelius are connecting with Allen and Edwards. Maybe SU will land the program-changing big fish in Ebenezer Ogundeko in two weeks. Heck, maybe the program is changing already.

No one should expect ten-win seasons and Heismans around the corner. But the kids are thinking big for SU. And you gotta believe it before you’re going to achieve it.

Posted: D.A.

24 Comments on this Post

  1. personnally i beleive syracuse can rebuild a winning team quickly. i really do love the dome as many seem to think its old. well come mid fall on through the year i’d rather be dry and warm than to be cold and wet. syracuse will be joining the acc conference which i beleive to be a solid football conference and probrably will have the best basketball conference in the country. i feel syracuse needs to update all football facilities which has been long over do, and the football program will pick up.. go orange..

  2. In order for Cuse to get back to the top in football,the coaches must continue to bring in highly talented players especially in the “skill” positions on both sides of the ball.At this time wide receivers and exceptional secondary players are a big need.

  3. Cuse don't luse

    Why does everyone say we need better facilities ? There are 5 or 6 turf fields next to Manley and another grouping I grass fields about 2 minutes from their what more do u want ? The weight room is pretty decent as well

  4. orangeskin

    I’m not surprised. I was convinced when I heard Coach Marrone speak at the half of the SU v. ND hoops game a few years back. I say it can absolutely happen, but for it to happen, SU has to ensure that verbals like Allen sign on the dotted line on national signing day. Allen IS a total steal for SU, and I’m concerned that SEC schools are going to start pursuing him if he performs well at Elite 11 and this fall. As long as the verbals all materialize and SU lands Ogundeko, SU could be battling with the top teams in the ACC from the get go. I agree that SU needs top flight skill position players, but football games are won in the trenches and as a former offensive lineman, Coach Marrone understands that. As a result, I think that’s why there’s been so much focus on landing impact D linemen. They create havoc and turnovers, the offense has a short field, the opponent gets behind, and the D line and the backers go on a QB feeding frenzy. They also need to keep going with landing good offensive linemen and developing them. A few land in the NFL, the coaches can tout that, and then they can start landing better prospects. Things are definitely headed in the right direction. Imagine where SU would be now if HCDM had been handed the keys to the SU program a year or two sooner. They are on their way. Hopefully they can overcome the brutal schedule and make a bowl this year. 6-6 wouldn’t be awful considering the schedule.

  5. orangeskin… I read somewhere that Allen said he is a solid verbal to Syracuse, as he he said he is a man of his word. His commitment to Syracuse was because they were the first BCS to offer, and he is indebted to them for that. So I don’t think any SEC schools will steal him away.

  6. Norma Stitz

    I agree with chad. I had the same worries as orangeskin but everything he is saying and doing is solid Orange. He is putting in a lot of time recruiting for SU too so I think that speaks volumes.

    Cuse- yes SU does need new practice facilities just to keep up. The outside fields are nice but they need their own “wing” of players lounges and meeting rooms. They also need better physical therapy rooms and a new indoor practice facility. Now we may think it looks fine but compared to most of our competition SU is way behind. And to the recruits that matters.

  7. @D.A.;so I would like to ask you,WHY NOT?
    Maybe not a Heisman Trophy Winner,but with the talent the Cuse is recruiting I can see maybe 10 win season’s happening within the next three years and to me that’s right around the corner.

    I believe that the 2012 team is going to surprise a lot of people this season. I think the 2013 season will be a magical one with Zach Allen at the helm. Look at the reciever’s their after already for the 2014 and 2015 SEASON’S (who are quick with size and can catch the ball)

    You just have to believe man, just believe.

    Go CUSE;

  8. Ron – this was a non-bowl team last year, so I feel like they have to walk before they can run. But I can’t lie – I LOVE the energy that is building for this football program. These kids BELIEVE in it, and Allen will be an amazing addition for a number of reasons. I love the trajectory of this team – even if it’s not 10 wins – but 8 would suffice.

  9. Russell MacEachern

    im going to say we should be very pleased w/a 7 win (b4 bowl)season and DAs right…were on an upward tracjectory but even w/Ogondeko and a couple more 3* studs its only a upper 40s type class…we’ll need two or three more similar recruiting classes too get were we need to be…make a bowl this year and I’ll be pleased,the fans will be happy and the momemtum should continue…win less than 6 and I’d be a little concerned..w/bowl I predict 8-5 season!!

  10. I firmly believe that any man’s finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle – victorious.

    Vince Lombardi

    A 10 win season is not far off. GO CUSE!

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  12. Thank you D.A. for responding to my queston and I agree with everything that you wrote. I beleive that the 8,9 or even the 10 win seasons are going to happen sooner than later. It’s just a matter of time before it starts.

    GO CUSE;

  13. bigdip

    Hunger……! hunger to succeed at any level. Edwards & Allen share the ASPIRATION “gene” and their outlook will be infectious on other recruits and future teammates. Remember: the Paulus season, our team looked like a FCS non playoff team.. very smallish, losing in the trenches, non intimidating…. but that has changed dramatically. Salute to the coaching staff, recruiting BFS: bigr.fstr.strngr! With high character kids w/ the hunger to win, half the battle is won….the other half is the gym, classroom , and the Dome field. If EO goes Orange, HCDMs coaching staff would have turned a giant corner, and officially won NY for ’12-’13.

    D.A. we’re two years removed from 8-5 and 25 blunders away from a ’11-’12 bowl game? Has Baylor had a 10 win season the last decade or so? No, but SU has (b4 GR)… dont be a slave to ESPN dude! Dont compare SU to an upstart big12 program? A one year wonder? If SU goes bowling with the talent on the team…for a 2nd time in three years, thats overachieving! BU is in Texas….they have the talent every year…9 wins should be the status quo….not their best year?
    * change needs to come when SU looks up to Baylor

  14. Russell MacEachern

    @BigDip,prop’s to you for calling out ESpin,were on too them!!they don’t give Eastern football any credit w/due…look for major viewer boycott when they lose…and its only a matter of time…MAJOR viewer’s to competitor’s in near future…they better start telling the truth or the only viewer’s they’ll have will be in the deep south…the whole world isn’t Texas.!!!

  15. Russell MacEachern

    Myself and hundred’s of others I know already started tuning them OUT..

  16. Norma Stitz

    I agree with a lot of what big dip says but let’s not get crazy we should aspire to what Baylor has done or become recently. And stats and what not aside Baylor has made a big splash lately and that is what I hope for CUSE.

  17. Russell MacEachern

    @Norma,I hear what ur saying,but the buzz and the arrogance of some of there college topic’s seem to belittle any inroads we may make or minimize our victorys w/that “well its only a BE win” ya see what I mean?Of course aspiring to become or accomplish what Baylor has would be big!!Basically I think..were agreed..its just so infuriating!!!Thanks Norma..

  18. Russell MacEachern

    Also I believe Baylor if transported to ACC or BE would only be middle of pack most season’s along with WF,BC,RU or USF!

  19. Norma Stitz

    Yeah I hear ya Russ and I agree. It will be interesting to see how good Baylor is now without RG3.

  20. hedgehog

    Let us not forget, as recently as 2001, Syracuse finished 10-3 overall, ranked #13 AP poll. Before that they had a NCAA record 16 straight winning seasons. There were a few dark years after that for sure, but lets not forget we are talking about the 13th winningest college football program in the history of college football. GO CUSE

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