Classless Crazy Eyes: Schiano Once Again Proves What A Clown He Is
D.A. | Sep 17, 2012 | Comments 45
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Greg Schiano calls for his Buccaneers players to dive at the quarterback during a kneel down? Yep, the douche-tastic-ness of Ol’ Crazy Eyes just keeps growing.
He calls timeouts while leading by six touchdowns against 1-AA schools. He acts like he’s doing the Big East a favor by coaching in the conference. He leaves his school abruptly on the eve of National Signing Day leaving his assistants in the dark.
Hey, this is just Greg being Greg. It left the Giants miffed at breaking the code of the NFL, risking injuries for no reason. Good for old school Tom Coughlin for calling him out.
“I don’t think you do that. You don’t do that in this league. Not only that, you jeopardize the offensive line, you jeopardize the quarterback. Thank goodness we didn’t get anybody hurt – that I know of. A couple of linemen were late getting in.”
In classic Schiano fashion, he was defiant. He did nothing wrong, remember? That’s the way his tough-nosed Scarlet Knights always played. To the final whistle – of PapaJohns.com Bowls and losses to Cincinnati.
“I don’t know if that’s not something that’s done in the National Football League. What I do with our football team is that we fight until they tell us game over. And there’s nothing dirty about it, there’s nothing illegal about it. We crowd the ball like a sneak defense and try to knock it loose. There’s nothing… if people watched Rutgers, they would know that’s what we do at the end of a game. We’re not going to quit, that’s just the way I coach and teach our players. If some people are upset about it, that’s just the way it goes. I don’t have any hesitation. That’s the way we play. We play clean, hard football until they tell us the game is over.”
Schiano is amazing. He acts as though he’s the second coming of Lombardi. Admittedly, he recruited New Jersey well. He built Rutgers up from a door mat. But he also was renown as being a terrible X’s and O’s coach who always lost games he shouldn’t have. With a glut of Garden State talent he still finished his career 20 games under .500 in the Big East (granted that includes two 0-7′s to begin his tenure there). He finished the season in the top 25 only once. Yet, if you ask him – he’s one of the best minds in football.
The whole mess encouraged potshots from the media targeting Crazy Eyes.
Greg Doyel of CBSSports.com tweeted, “Also at Rutgers, Schiano called TO late 2Q against I-AA Norfolk, up 45-0. He wanted more. No class then. None now.”
Alan Hahn, Knicks studio host: “This Greg Schiano situation with that hit on Eli taking a knee is alarming. Schiano’s own players were quick to throw him under the bus.”
Pete Prisco of CBS Sports: “Schiano has to realize this is the NFL. Guys get paid. Why risk injury? Coughlin had a right to be mad.”
Ian O’Connor, ESPN New York: “Coughlin: ‘I don’t think u do that in this league.’ Translation: “Hey Schiano, you’re not playing Norfolk State anymore.”
Steve Politi, Newark Star-Ledger: “Cut Schiano some slack on this one. If anybody has had a chance to study opposing kneel downs over the years, it’s him.”
Stephen A. Smith, ESPN: “Coughlin was doing the Barking. Schiano was just listening, knowing he didn’t have a leg to stand on.”
Yep, it’s a consensus. Schiano is slime.
Posted: D.A.
Well I guess I missed something big today in the NFL.
With that kind of behavior shouldn’t the commissioner take actions against the coach and players for playing dirty? How do we know if Schiano instituted a bounty system in Tampa Bay or not? He should suspend the coach and all of the players from playing for the rest of the year just like he did with New Orleans.
I don’t think Schiano is going to last long in the NFL. He’s in with the BIG BOYS now and needs to be awful careful.
In the NFL as we all know,”WHAT GOES AROUND EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO HAUNT YOU.” He should be done by the end of the year unless Oakland takes him.
@Ron I love the hatred of Schiano but the play in itself probably isn’t illegal it is just a totally classless act and not done or tolerated in the NFL. He will probably get talked to secretly to not do that but don’t look for anything more. And I agree that he probably won’t be an NFL coach for long unless his assistants are a lot better at x’s and o’s than he is.
What really gets me is that this shows his character and exactly what type of scumbag he is and he was recruiting and getting kids and their families to sign on with him at Rutgers! Say what you want about HCDM and Hackett and their play calling at times, I would rather have them representing the program I cheer for than scumbag Schiano. You can just tell he is slimy just like Calipari at UK. Can’t stand it.
I absolutely completely totally 110% agree with this article. As well as being a die-hard Syracuse fan I’m also the same way about my G-Men. When I watched that happen, I just could not believe how unbelievably unclassy that was… never seen anything like it at any level particularly the NFL. Greg Schiano always was, always is, and always will be… a complete P.O.S.!!!
Kevin,same here!!Im a big Giant fan since Y.A.Tittle in the early 60s when I was 9 or 10 yrs old!I watched the original Meadowland’s go up week by week until LT came and revitalized us!!I grew up 5 mile’s from the M’land’s!I still remember not liking the fact the Jint’s were temporarily playing at the Yale bowl!Greasy Greg was a great recruiter but deserted his team in the middle of there best recruiting class a few day’s b’fore signing day !!That should say it all!!
This has nothing to do with class. I’d root for the Giants over the Bucs any day of the week, but Schiano did nothing wrong here. It really hasn’t been all that long since the last time somebody botched a snap to lose a game. Were the Giants up by two possessions? No. Was there a small chance that a turnover could lead to a Bucs victory? YES! It’s not like the Bucs were pretending to do nothing and then just jumped all over the Giants. Every single member of the Bucs defense lined up to play that last snap. IT WAS OBVIOUS!! Why did the Giants not protect themselves? If the Bucs tricked the Giants in some way or were down by two possessions, then yes, it would have been cheap and classless. But in that situation, they neeed to play for 60 minutes.
@Russell Mac Eachern;hey man your going back as few years aren’t you. A NY Giants team led by the great Y.A. Tittle vs the Baltimore Colts led by the great Johnny Unitas for the NFL Championship. Two of the greatest quarterbacks ever to play the game.
At the end of the game YA went to the end zone knelt down on one knee and took off his helmet to show the blood running off of his bald head. I remember that game as if were played yesterday. Also remember that that’s when the networks first started experimenting with televising the games to us on our black and white tv sets.
Russell that’s when men played the game of football.
I’m no Schiano fan, but from my perspective it was Coughlin who looked like the lunatic bitch. Tampa’s D-line looked primed and ready to fire off. That the Giants didn’t expect it is the fault of the Giants. Just because most teams don’t do it doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done. Cough ain’t the arbiter of clean play just because his team lucked into two SB wins.
Grandpa Cough needs to pour himself some Ensure, unwrap a nice Werther’s Original and crank up some Artie Shaw on his phonograph. Let the players play, you old coot.
2 Schiano apologists on here. Coughlin is a Syracuse man, screw Schiano.
@Alan,no one LUCK’S their way into the SB,gelling at the right time and hard work is what it take’s to get there let alone win 2!!What the F**k doe’s age have to do with anything??
Ron,I always liked Del Shofner and Spider Lockhart!!I remember when Lockhart intercepted 2 passes in the 4th qtr and upset the “Skins”? in 67/68?
Ron Johnson too!!
@Russell Mac Eachern: Fair enough, Rusty. Luck was a word poorly chosen. Replace it with “was fortunate enough to win” two SBs. Cool?
His age/experience has everything to do with it. He’s been around the league long enough that he feels has the moral high ground to publicly confront a younger coach like a maniac about an unwritten rule that doesn’t make sense (why wouldn’t his players go after that snap?). That was a “get off my lawn” move if ever there were one. No way he acts like that to BB or Chan Gailey. Coughlin is a nut; plain and simple. And in this case he also happens to be wrong.
P.S. there is no apostrophe necessary in either the word “takes” or “does”.
@Alan; guys like Russell and I wear our age with respect,pride and dignity. We’ve earned it and I’m sure that all of the elderly feel the same way. We’ve forgotten more than you probably will ever learn in your lifetime.
I have a problem when you disrespect a person with Russell’s credentials and experience. So do us all a favor give us the respect and dignity that we’ve earned. Next time you see an elderly women struggling to get to her car give her a hand or maybe do something so innocent as to hold a door open and let them pass through first.
Your generation hasn’t been taught to do anything the right way. Please remember some day you too will make it to the what we call the golden years and when you do you’re going to be asking where’s the respect that you’ve earned all of your life. So cool it buddy and leave Russell alone.
Oh1did I use the correct punctation and spelling.
@ Alan – It’s clear you don’t like the Giants, but you are clearly not an SU fan either talking that way about Coughlin. I didn’t think he looked like a lunatic, and if he’s got something to say, I’m glad he said it to the guy’s face, rather than in the press.
There are unwritten rules, not matter how right or legal the play was. You don’t bunt against a no-hitter, you don’t run up the score on a lesser opponent in the pros, it used to be you didn’t do that anywhere, but the college game has changed.
The fact is that if Coughlin ran a play there and scored, he would be the villan here and we all know it. Call it etiquette if you want, or just plain sportsmanship, but with 5 seconds to go and a requirement to snap the ball to get the clock to run, its a formality, not a chance to injure unecessarily. The Giants scored 25 in the 4th and maybe demoralized the Bucs. It reeks of anger and intent to injure. Even his players don’t seem to have been behind the idea. I hope everyone runs it up on the Bucs from here on out.
@Ron: I have all the respect in the world for people of all ages. I could give two sh!ts how old you are and, all due respect, you haven’t earned my respect on account of surviving on this earth as long as you have. None of this was meant as a personal attack so stop couching it as such (I’m no young man myself). I wish I’d never mentioned the Ensure and Artie Shaw parts of the first post, not because it wasn’t funny (it was) but because the break off “conversation” of the original post makes it seem as though I’m “trolling” old dudes. I am not. I just think Coughlin was wrong.
The point, to the extent I must clarify it, is that a person’s age or experience is of no moment if they don’t act like it matters. My problem stems from people of any age, be it old or young, using their age as a sword. It appeared to me that Coughlin was giving Schiano a “you don’t come in to my league and do that, young fella” type talk, as though Coughlin had “earned” the right to scold a younger coach on account of an age/experience advantage. That, for me, is bullsh!t. Schiano had every right to go after that snap and while Coughlin may be pissed about it, his reaction was beyond the pale. Coughlin, and his players, got caught with their pants down. They should have been better prepared to deal with an aggressive D in that situation. It’s one thing to be pissed if you thought it was cheap. It’s a whole ‘nother thing to publicly air out a coach on national television because you thought his players were playing too hard. It just reeked old-fashioned, holier than thou bullhonky (to borrow a word from Coughlin’s era. Sorry.)
Re your last question: No. You did not.
@Malone First, half my family is from Malone, NY so respect right there (assuming that your handle represents your location and not your name).
‘Cuse fan through and through. I could care less that Coughlin is a ‘Cuse grad. Am I supposed to give Al Davis and Randy Edsall a pass too?
Listen, it’s a difference of opinion. I do not like the Giants, yes. But I dislike Schiano more. It’s not a matter of bias. I just don’t think it was wrong and have a STRONG distaste for this unwritten rule horse feces, especially when it relates to a team’s chance to win or lose. Do I bunt in a no hitter? If it’s 0-0 in the ninth of game 7 and it’s Brett Gardner, you’re GD right I do. The situation can trump the unwritten rule. Tampa Bay wanted to, and could have, won that game with an NYG error. Their only shot at causing an error was to disrupt the snap. They did their level best. To fault them for that–again, IMO–is laudable, not grounds for outrage.
Hey, Alan, your attempt in trying to explain your earlier comments makes you look like more of an idiot than the original premise that a kneel-down is still a “fair game” situation to get mauled (ever play football in that situation- smacks of ignorance to suggest this was a good football strategy). I think most of us wrote you off as a dolt with the Giants “lucked into” 2 SBs comment. Wow!!! Do us favor and take a break from this site, and get some common sense. Later………….
@Greg; Wow!!! (!!!!!)
I disagree with you but until I ‘rassle up some common sense and then apparently change my mind to agree with Greg, I’ll take a break from defending my reasonable opinion from the likes you and the rest of the ‘Cuse message board illuminati.
We disagree. That’s it. That I stopped playing football in high school doesn’t make me less of an expert than you or anyone. Disagreements happens. Don’t take it to heart. I wasn’t trying to wound you. Make a point or move on. Attacking me, rather than the point, makes it clear that you don’t have one (a point, that is).
@Alan,I go to the Dr and again come home to an uproar?Why could’nt a young coach be just as stupid? What the hell does age have to do with it?Holy smoke’s he’s 60 yrs old not 78/80,since when is that a basisfor dementia?Worse Alan this is a blog not English class!!I don’t need astranger who understand’s my comment completely getting high brow for giving my opinion!!We don’t need arrogance here!!Sorry Mr Perfect Alan!!
@Alan-Your point is taken and your opinion respected, but the source and the circumstance of the issue was Schiano, not Coughlin. Schiano is the guy who thought the rules of the game should be changed because his player got injured in a play that abided the rules. Schiano for years was critical of the way Rutgers was treated with regard to running up scores and usually took it out in the press rather than handshakes, but that said, even GRob, who seemed to like the guy that sh*t in his cornflakes didn’t like this guy.
As for the “you don’t come into my league” and whether or not TC has “earned” it, I don’t have a problem with either because it is his league (he’s the reigning champ) and his 2 SB’s along with his track record show he’s earned it.
Heck Coughlin’s and the Giants’ presence sheilded bad college teams like Rutgers and their coaches, like Schiano from greater public scrutiny, so yeah, he’s earned it. If Schiano’s Rutgers were in almost any other area of the country, he doesn’t last long enough as a head coach to get asked about the Tampa Bay opening. He had two 0 win Big East seasons, and four straight losing seasons at RU. That is GRob status. While at Miami, he coached Jonathan Vilma (bounty-gate anybody?). Oh yeah, he was also a defensive coach at Penn State under Jerry Sandusky. His playing days were at mighty Bucknell University.
Coughlin’s earned it coaching at SU, BC, Jacksonville and the Giants. He earned it playing with legit tough guys like Csonka and Little. Ask Csonka how he feels about kneeling to end a game after the Miracle in the Meadowlands.
I think the play is legal and I see the need to try until the end if you are losing, but this was cheesy, and he deserved to get called out for it.
I am not from Malone, although I respect anyone who lives that far north. That is tough country. I am from NJ. I am from the same high school as Greg Schiano. He was a coach there for one of my years. I am conflicted by him, but I don’t like this move and don’t have a problem with him getting called on it.
As for Al Davis, you have to respect what he did for football and for SU. Edsall, not so much.
@Alan,did’nt mean to sound off like that but I come here to relax with fellow “Cuse” fan’s and were all not w/doctorate’s (associates)so some of us are tired of spelling nazis “punctuation too” so bear w/us and try to express yourself in a manner that you urself expect to be treated!Your opinion’s are fine done respectfully!Thank you!
@Malone: Fair enough and well put.
@Rusty: apologies for ruffling feathers. I expected a challenge of the content of what I am sure is an unpopular opinion given the title of the post and the tenor of the commenting crew. I didn’t expect to get assaulted for editorializing in making the point. I’ll allow everyone to continue relaxing and resist the urge to respond.
You still haven’t addressed the content of the initial post but it may be time to put this issue to bed.
@Malone,I know ur hometown,nice little town in Bergen Cty!W….f?,right?I’m from Belleville/Nutley!!I know,not alway’s so nice,very blue collar!HaHa,well Belleville anyway,Nutley’s really nice w/load’s of pizza joint’s lol..
@Alan,no problem,it’s easy to get caught up in this type of discourse on the web but reasonable people can easily work it out!!Peace!
@Alan,how come you called me Rusty?Eirry but it is what I’ve been called all my life by family and friend’s tho my dad’s “same name” is called Red!Guess its a common nickname for Russell!!
@Russ-Wyckoff it is. I know Belleville and Nutley. I did a lot of work in Nutley at one point, at Roche and looked to move there, or Bloomfield recently. I am a little further south in Union county now.
Funny I did’nt notice in ur first post!I’ll try to remember no apostrophe’s but after 61yrs it just don’t seem that important, HaHa!!
@Yeah,I’ve walked every inch of Newark, Belleville,Nutley, Bloomfield and actually might move back to Essex Cty or Shore point’s?I like Jersey and miss it!My mom still lives in W.Caldwell!She’s gonna be 80 in 2 day’s and looks and sounds 60!I used to like camping at the Delaware water gap and spent some time at Bertrands Island on summer nights as a 20+!!
Yeah ur probably in Westfield,ScotchPlains region working ur way to shore point’s like everyone else!HaHa..next stop Tampa Bay lol!!
A lot of people don’t realise this but since the influx of snowbird’s Fla’s become a football state!!HaHa..the rest of them are in the Carolina’s lol..”expatriates”
To a “T” Russ. I have expat family in both NC and Fla. I am in Fanwood (Scotch Plains). I have left and still came back. Something about NJ gets in your blood.
Yeah Malone,I like the 4 season’s “Music group+real”,holiday spirit.convienience’s to culture etc!I liked “dago”San Diego but missed rain,but Fla’s to humid but the Keys are nice!
I notice L.I.,NY and Jerseyan’s are culturally similar (Irish,jews,Itals)and gravitate well together!!I think the P.R.s or latins are also blending well?I guess this isn’t the right place for personal ethnic thought’s HaHa…but at least no negativity!lol..football night
Id be remiss to not mention Pole’s and slavic peoples.
I know this has turned into a love fest on here trying to squash some kind of perceived insults but Alan’s original point was basically,” play to the whistle it is the giants responsibility to be ready not the bucs responsibility to honor a kneel down.” apologies if that is misquoting or totally screwing up Alan’s point but…. I mean yeah technically right, obviously no infraction was called but come on. No one does that and when they do it is all over espn like this is and I don’t remember seeing it lately so it doesn’t happen often. So you either honor those types of unwritten rules or you are painted the jerk like Schiano has been, justifiably IMO. But since it is not an infraction of any rule and it is open for differing opinions it is basically just that, what is your opinion of this play? I think it is dirty and almost childish and Alan seems to think it is a tough nosed, play to the whistle play. Who is to say what is ultimately right, probably the other coaches in the NFL. So we will see if he continues to send his players like that at the end.
But wow Alan you have to agree, after reading it back, you sound like you hate the giants and really have an issue with Coughlins age. From your original post that is. Well I guess you don’t have to agree but….
@Stringer,agreed his origanal point was fine till he got personal but we/ve realised no insults were intended and buried the hatchet!!A little late to the party huh Stringer?HaHa..
Schiano said he’s done that for 11 yrs at RU and it worked 4 times and it was never an issue?Personally I guess if its legal and their’s enough time to win?Do it!!That’s why they’re paid the big bucks!!
Guy’s looking back at the meadowland incident thru the perspective of time maybe we were a little “emotional” at our responce to Alan who seemed like a decent guy whose choice of words clouded the real issue?I hope he continues to contribute to the site and he don’t think were a bunch of nut’s HaHa!Remember the movie “Shane”…hey Alan,come back!!!lol..
A little late? Way late! Hahaha!
I agree /w alan. I was always told you play to the whistle. The fact is jumping the snap on a kneel down has worked. Check out the troy and ok.st 2010 game on youtube. If u cant find it check deadspin for the article. Football is not a gentlemen’s game. Thats the most absurd thing i’ve ever heard. The game of football is legalized assault on another human being.
@Carlton.welcome back!!Good thing u were late or it might have been u HaHa,did u see my response to the W.Ky/KY game score I commented to u?I no you felt it could’nt happen to a “better fanbase” lol !!
@Russ, it is always me haha. Ya i saw that comment. Funny thing WKU’s coach made a remark regarding all the UK fans on WKU’s campus an how they couldnt get into UK. Talk about foot in mouth lol. Anyways I have np /w the play. Hes got a young team thats coming off a awful season and he is trying to build a identity for his team. If he made that call down 14 then well he’d be a dumbass.
Ya,if he stuck to his opinion I might’ve agreed or bypassed it!But beings he was relatively new his humor went over our heads?,….cause he was a decent guy!!I hope he comes back!!
@Carlton -Uugghhh!
I am not arguing the legality of the play, I can’t. There is nothing against it in the rules. That said, they are gonna get whacked at the end of EVERY game this year and maybe past that. I hope they are ready for that because of this one play call. Nobody will care what the score is anymore. They will get a smack in the face. Their identity will be the jerks who play for the pompous ass.
This is a big deal because… wait for it… it never happens. Its the past now, but for a rookie coach to tell the world that NFL coaches should have paid attention to his college play calling is pretty pompous. For Alan to have said that Coughlin was full of himself for calling Schiano on it is a bit backward.