Syracuse’s X-Factor: Top 3 Positions for Ashton Broyld To Play This Summer
D.A. | Aug 04, 2012 | Comments 36
Syracuse’s new season officially begins this weekend, as Doug Marrone will open camp. SU has continually talked about creating big offensive plays this year, and Ashton Broyld’s potential in that area is something The Fizz is keeping a close eye on. What role will Broyld have with this team? The Syracuse Slash can do a little bit of everything, and that was on display this spring.
The Spring Game highlighted some of the ways the Orange might use the versatile athlete, but the coaching staff has yet to declare their intentions. Marrone spoke at Media Day about the plan with Broyld, and said they will continue to rotate him around the field. It’s up to him to learn and thrive at one (or more) of those spots.
“I think we’re going to keep him going around (from position to position) and really put the pressure on Ashton to make sure he can handle what we’re going to throw at him. And we’re going to throw it at him and see what he can handle. And then if we feel he’s not handling something and he is not progressing then we’ll back off.”
Looks like Broyld’s learning curve will decide where and how much he plays. Doug was all business in Newport, and we assume he’s up late at night creating possible mismatches for his offensive weapons. The Fizz ranks Broyld’s top three possible positions where he could thrive for SU:
- Wide Receiver
He spent time at wideout in the Spring Game, and the idea of the slippery 6’4″ Broyld running routes on the quick Dome turf sounds great. He doesn’t possess the same high-end speed as guys like Alec Lemon, but he is a natural runner, and once he understands the passing playbook, it’s a no-brainer to run plays for him. Broyld can bring a big play capability. Get the ball in his hands and let him make people miss. Bubble screens, quick slants, short timing routes should all be drawn up to get him the football in space. He could also be utilized in handoffs and reverses, by being set in motion from his wide out spot.
- Special Teams
He’s comfortable with the ball in his hands, so why not allow him chances to return kicks? Punt and kick return duties are always good ways to help field position and create big plays. Rotate him in during summer camp and see how effective he can be. Maybe there’s even a package of fake field goals or extra points where Broyld can line up as a blocker, only to become a receiver or runner at the snap.
- Wildcat QB
This seems to be a no-brainer. Just before spring practice began, Marrone stated one his main goals was to establish playmaking schemes in the offense. You have the prototypical pocket passer with Ryan Nassib. Zach Allen or Austin Wilson may take over that role down the road. But creating packages where Broyld gets snaps to keep a defense on its heels makes sense. Imagine a natural quarterback with a good arm like Broyld taking a hand off? With the threat to either pass or run, opposing defenses would have a tough time preparing. A stale offense could automatically become an exciting one with Ashton’s packages.
It will probably be difficult for Broyld to get too many snaps as a traditional running back since SU has so many bodies there already. George Morris finally made his way to campus, and DeVante McFarlane joins him as a freshman duo. Veteran presences Jerome Smith and Prince-Tyson Gulley are there, plus enormous sophomore Adonis Ameen-Moore. Broyld could get handoffs, but more than likely it comes out of the WR or Wildcat position.
Ashton is a dynamic threat SU has been searching for. He is a multipurpose piece of this offensive puzzle, and it looks like Marrone is open to trying him in multiple spots. It’s up to Broyld to put in the work to learn those positions. But this has big potential written all over it for the Orange.
At what position do you think Broyld’s biggest potential is?
Posted: Brendan Glasheen


I really see Broyld as having the potential to be our Ray Rice in a bigger package…a potential gamechanger at several possible position’s wr/te as sort of a “Marco Battaglia” TE for those of you old enough to remember him from RU..rb/wc or I even think he’d make a 1st rd type ss on defense….forget qb he’s more instinctive than cerebral!!…hey Dipper..give us some of your “wisdom for the ages”..curious to see your thought’s?
and Normas and Rons too…you to bgogo?..did’nt think I’d forget the “Inspector” did ya?
How about Tight End? It seems to be a natural for him. Short routes can be exciting once the ball is in his hands. Screen plays might generate the big yardage so often missing with Doug’s plays out there.
Funny chris/russ because when he got reevaluated after his season at Milford Scout had him as a 4 star TE and everyone thought that was odd. I agree I think that close to the line slot type receiver that will crack a LBer with a block to spring a RB or QB is a great spot for him. They will move him around a lot I believe. Probably not much QB. IMO.
@ Russell MacEachern; If I counted them right, we currently have 3-4 4**** players that should be on the field this year along with the 2010 NY State Player Of The Year joining them.
I also believe that Ryan Nassib is going to surprise a lot of people by leading Syracuse to a bowl game in 2012/2013. I’m hoping that the standards to witch future teams will want to achieve or beat will be established this year.
GO CUSE;
I think it’s mostly wr and wildcat qb for Broyld, just the way DA states, and in the same uses. I’d be surprised to see him on ST. He won’t be a tight end, because we’re already okay there, but I think the staff will look to spread out the 4-star frosh Thompson with Broyld at the same time. They’re both somewhat hybrid TE/Receivers with great size who could really create matchup issues. Not saying Thompson will start, but they could create a very different look. It would also spread the field for the quick slants to Broyld and open his playmaking skills. I’m excited to watch this come together. Absolutely can’t wait for the season to kick off!
Bgogo I agree that Thompson and Broyld in the slots Lemon and Kobena or someone that can spread the field on the outside would make for some nice targets for Nassib. Situationally of course not all the time.
i can see ashton at wr or qb. good athlete and can be dangerous.
Guys n gal…6’4″ slot reciever? 6’4″ all-around STUD player on ST? Doubt it! Why risk injury with speedsters like Kobena/Rene/Morris on the roster? It just isnt smart, we need Ashton in the ACC, he wont make it playing the positions that are highly susceptible to injury. That said, he can be “Brad Smith” like,but the NYJ years ( not mizzou: that was Tebow-ish). HCDM seems to think the kid can excell at multiple positions, I like him as WildQb, 4/5 wr formation(take advantage of smaller db), goaline rb.
Regardless the position, if he doesnt score 7-10 TDs, we misused him! Its about mismatches and maximizing his talent. We need to groom more scoring threats this season….FSU or CLEM have no reason to fear our playmakers: that has to change. Nassib needs to feel the heat of competition for growth, nobodys challenged him in three years for playingtime…He isnt Brady or a Manning…95% of the snaps is too much.
Dip- yeah I could see 6’4 slot receiver going over the middle. And a 6’4 RB is a lot more suscepatable to injury than in the slot IMO. Either way you are right he needs to get about 7-10 tds this year in all sorts of ways.
I did like HCDMs quote today about using any player in any and all ways to help the team win. I honestly think we will see a much different offense this year.
On another note, what do you guys think about the LBers being Spruill and Davis on the outsides and Diabate in the middle? Looks like that may be what happens. Vaughn had a ton of tackles last year but those are your 3 best LBers on the field at once. I see a lot of rotating in the front 7 this year to keep the pressure up on.
Thanks for the read guys.
I appreciate all the other suggestions on AB’s positioning. I think TE is just loaded already with Sugar Bear getting a lot of attention there.
Broyld kinda reminds me of yeah a Ray Rice, but maybe an Aaron Hernandez with the Patriots. You know Bellicheck uses him in as a receiver, he ain’t no TE, but he can also run the reverse.
It will always revert back to what Marrone has preached: making impact plays on the offensive with more creativity. Any scenario you see SU setting up 3rd and short or something, no doubt Broyld will be involved
I almost forgot about Ron Thompson,double TE single back sets would create havoc w/the talent well be able to put n the field soon till Q Funderburke is eligible…Hey Norma see Dippers “guys and gal ?”..here you go again..lol..
@Russ You know my colored commentary is often “over used” & “misevaluated” …….not taking me too serious would be a smart move LOL…Im here to represent the gray area of FANATICISM!
I hope Ashton is as graceful as a “flying squirrel”..bad metaphor! GO SU
Blog Clog: @Norma if Diabte has a bigger upside, as an MLB, than Vaugn at OLB…why not? It automatically adds to 2nd team depth! Biggest reason if it happens: w/ Spruill OLB, SU was 8-5..theres somethin there? He’d surpass DV’s stats from last season easily…SU needs more sacks and QB pressure..preseason mags are talking our lack of pressure last season.
@Russ I thought “g-l was respectful” good grief…is Norma a man? Lol…my bad dude!
Agree with Norma. You put a 6’4, 235lb athlete (Broyld) in the slot, put the same (Thompson)on the other side, then flank out Lemon and Sales (or whomever), and all of a sudden chaos ensues on the defense. You can qb run it, trap/draw it, throw it quick and watch the mismatch. Also agree he’s less likely to get injured there. Nassib’s a fifth year player. He’s not going to run his slants into an oncoming linebacker, because that will be his first read.
Bgo…a 6’4″ slot wr not getting hit..isnt realistic! Best slot is Wes Welker: size & speed to avoid hits? I hope a 6’4″ slot is sealing a block for a rb? Mike Williams was used in motion a lot, taking advantage of safety coverages and mismatches at the line of scrimage, having our 6’4″ playmaker b4 he would take a direct snap, or line up wide, on a smaller cb wouldnt be smart ball….a freshman slot? Situationally, not permanently…lol! & not B4 Sales in the slot…? He would abuse a corner or olb easy!
You might want to study the game a little more, kiddo. Glad you’re here though. Welcome to the site.
I am thinking of how the Bills use David Nelson who is a 6’5″ WR that always gets mistaken for a TE because of how close he lines up to the tackles. He runs a lot of middle seams, crosses and chips a lot when they try to roll the QB out. It can be done but what will be done with Broyld is very exciting, I can’t wait to see!
@Norma,yeah Im liking the way were setting up at LBer too!…@BigDipper..I fell for the handle too regarding Norma,he’s long since come out of the “closet” lol…surprised you fell for it at your age..
also Norma Im real anxious too see olb Davis development I still feel that hit in the RU game…he was a wr in HS and looking to payback RU for bypassing him…nothing like revenge as a motivater…feeling the excitement fella’s?..
@russ- yeah Davis is an athletic beast!
Norma. I was thinking the same thing, but with Gronkowski and all the college teams bringing it on. I also like Davis a lot; I’m surprised he’s relegated to backup for now, but I guess that says something really good about Siriki.
@Norma. I was thinking the same thing, but with Gronkowski and all the college teams bringing it on. I also like Davis a lot; I’m surprised he’s relegated to backup for now, but I guess that says something really good about Siriki.
@Norm he has to bulk up though! Our LBs remind me of Sean Spence at UofM…drafted by Steelers.very light, athletic & quick. Can be overpowered
* David nelson? You want our PLAYMAKER to emulate him? Bad choice………..u and gogo must be Bills fans
@gogo … Hold your applause, please! Bigdip knows ALL……+ some!
These are starting slot receivers this season…not many 6’4″ 230 slots? Think b4 you BLOG dude, study the game? U look STUPID now!
PLEASE I ENCOURAGE U TO STUDY THE GAME BGOGO….
1 S.C. Byrd 5-9 168
2 Baylor Sampson 5-11 200
3 TCU Carter 5-11 161
4 OSU Anderson 5-10 168
5 WVU Austin 5-9 174
6 Clem Brown 6-2 200
7 UW Burns 5-11 180
8 USF Marc 5-11 220
9 ORE Thomas 5-9 175
Can someone please kill this debate? Wes Welker 5’11″ or David Nelson 6’4″…who would you want in the slot position?
I say wat i please…blog what i want…go where I’m unwelcome…spit my opinion…rock out wit my c-ck out…thanx for letting me be your “daily shock jock” ….in response to bgogo’s welcoming salute to “Da Dip” …no need to welcome me, I’ve never exited?
Dip
Yeah I absolutely want him to emulate a two time college champ and a NFL WR. You don’t?
And who are you saying needs to bulk up, Davis? I mean SU’s LBers are what they are you aren’t gonna have Alabama size LBers at SU right now.
And if you are saying D E’Anthony Thomas from Oregon, well he is a RB so get a better example with that.
Point being Dip is you obviously don’t get what we are saying. Are we comparing Welker to David Nelson????? No! So you can let that argument die.
You want a small receiver in that slot and yeah that is great but I am talking about something different than just always lining up the same guy in the same slot position.
So would you like to continue arguing a topic that can’t be proven because it is a suggestion or a thought and not a question with a definitive answer?
Semantics……No i don’t want Ashton to be David Nelson(bills fan),
I want him to be Brad Smith?
1 Wes Welker is the best slot on the planet…check bleacherreport.com (thats the prototype)
2 bulking up….at 219, 216, and 215 , SU’s entire LB core needs to?
What does Alabama have to do with anything? These are the smallest LBs in years dude! They’re way smaller than Hogue n Smith?
3 Hey smart guy….D Thomas is inked in as a starting wr… Barner is the runningback….(doh!) …DT plays multipositions and ST…? Do you watch football or listen on the radio?
4 dudeeeee….I’M TALKING ABOUT WHERE ASHTON FITS BEST?
Now go back…read my response again: never mind lol i said…
A. Wildcat QB
B. 4/5 wide formation
C. Goaline rb
I stop when i want…..
Are u saying you’d risk an injury…to line him up in a “new” position? Thats stupid…and i will call u out on a stupid thought! Argument dead….but u dont speak for everyone….sorry! Ashton in the SLOT is plain DUMB….we’ll see Sept 1!!!!
Blog Clog….one of my final thoughts was: as long as Ashton scores 7-10 TDs, we used him correctly, if not we misused him….position didnt matter? I’m too smart for semantics…..
Hey SU fans…do u want Ashton Broyld to emulate David Nelson or a real football player? Who is DN…..give me stats(tds & yds)…I’m a NYG fan…bills fan!
* When you smart people say, ” put him in the slot like David Nelson” and i say my Prototypical slot is “Wes Welker” ….I believe thats a horrible fit for SUs newest playmaker!!!!!!!! Didnt HCDM put him in the backfield in “Spring”……u kno more than HCDM ? Good grief Lol
SU fans looking like Ameerican Idiots today!
1. Vast majority of top slot receivers in NFL are over 6’0. Look it up.
2. Nobody said these guys are our slot regulars; rather, we’re all saying that placing bigger guys in the slot can create mismatches, and several coaches(Belichick, etc.) have started showing success in this.
3. The reason is that when you have a player with both size and speed, he can be too quick for the lb, too big for a db.
4. Marrone didn’t just put Broyld in the backfield. He said he wants him all over the field. Check your facts.
5. You aren’t the next Emenim, although apparantly you think you are.Put time into your education and learn to read and write properly. If you think life sucks now, try being an adult who has to work at McDonalds.
6. You can thank me later for this free education. Goodbye.
@bgogo;kinda looks like the babyspoon aka bigdip got under your skin too.
Your post is well written and to the point. Nice job.
@bigdip;give us some of the names of the 5’11″ and smaller slot receivers that play in the NFL.
Dip( name is appropriate) who is the blog clog? A. De Thomas is listed as a RB by Oregon itself( doh!) B. Nelson is way more productive and used than Smith(doh!) C.And what Alabama has to do with it is the exact same thing as you listing all these little ass wrs that support your arguement(works both ways doh!) D. I will take AAM or Jerome at the goal line over Broyld for now. E. Slow down you don’t wanna hurt yourself.
But either way dip I appreciate your fan spirit. Calling people stupid and idiots is a little juvenile though. You can do better.
Definitely agree with the Mike William comment. They are about the same size and speed, he could be used in a similar fashion. He’s not far from a Terrell Owens build. Same height and size. Lets see small db’s in the big east try to stop that!
NNelson is 6
Nelson is 6’5 not 6’4. Spiller was used way more in the slot then smith. The real x -factor is can he keep his pants on!
Nice Carlton! Hahaha!